Comments on: The Dinner Party http://thesmokingsection.wordpress.com/2004/12/13/the-dinner-party/ Taking it one page at a time... Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:22:48 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://thesmokingsection.wordpress.com/2004/12/13/the-dinner-party/#comment-42 Anonymous Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:54:02 +0000 http://thesmokingsection.wordpress.com/2004/12/13/the-dinner-party/#comment-42 I've been wondering lately why we hold people in relationships up to high standards. I mean, isn't half of being human fucking up in some big way? And yet, in every other aspect of our lives we take it as a matter of course, we fuck up on papers, while driving, cooking..whatever. And yet, suddenly we're in this relationship, and we expect people not to fuck up. I guess there are some things that we should be pissed offf about..infidelity, irrational jealously, or just general assholicness. I don't really know what I am getting at here, but the reality of most relationships(at the least those I experienced vicariously through coworkers) is that at some point sex is dependent on whether or not the dishes get done, how and why does that happen? I’ve been wondering lately why we hold people in relationships up to high standards. I mean, isn’t half of being human fucking up in some big way? And yet, in every other aspect of our lives we take it as a matter of course, we fuck up on papers, while driving, cooking..whatever. And yet, suddenly we’re in this relationship, and we expect people not to fuck up. I guess there are some things that we should be pissed offf about..infidelity, irrational jealously, or just general assholicness. I don’t really know what I am getting at here, but the reality of most relationships(at the least those I experienced vicariously through coworkers) is that at some point sex is dependent on whether or not the dishes get done, how and why does that happen?

]]> By: Vila H. http://thesmokingsection.wordpress.com/2004/12/13/the-dinner-party/#comment-41 Vila H. Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:57:19 +0000 http://thesmokingsection.wordpress.com/2004/12/13/the-dinner-party/#comment-41 Short answer: it does not accept prescriptions from women's magazines, daytime talk shows, or romance novels, or, for that matter, their highbrow equivalents. Of course, you already know this.<br /><br />Also, it posits that all relationships, whatever their form, ought to be governed by the same ethical principles. Not least among these is the deceptively simple directive that people are ends and never means. In this sense, the individuals under discussion have failed, not as men but as human beings, and as such they are worthy of denunciation. <br /><br />The long answer, I think, is best reserved for the Café. Short answer: it does not accept prescriptions from women’s magazines, daytime talk shows, or romance novels, or, for that matter, their highbrow equivalents. Of course, you already know this.

Also, it posits that all relationships, whatever their form, ought to be governed by the same ethical principles. Not least among these is the deceptively simple directive that people are ends and never means. In this sense, the individuals under discussion have failed, not as men but as human beings, and as such they are worthy of denunciation.

The long answer, I think, is best reserved for the Café.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thesmokingsection.wordpress.com/2004/12/13/the-dinner-party/#comment-40 Anonymous Tue, 14 Dec 2004 14:36:10 +0000 http://thesmokingsection.wordpress.com/2004/12/13/the-dinner-party/#comment-40 Cher Vee-- out of curiosity, what is your definition of a relationship? And, you're absolutely right--the tone was bad; male bashing was prominent, or perhaps just imminent (I can't recall). But you must admit that the men in our lives (and not in our lives, as the case may be) leave themselves open to, as James would say, "denouncing." <br />xo ada Cher Vee– out of curiosity, what is your definition of a relationship? And, you’re absolutely right–the tone was bad; male bashing was prominent, or perhaps just imminent (I can’t recall). But you must admit that the men in our lives (and not in our lives, as the case may be) leave themselves open to, as James would say, “denouncing.”
xo ada

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